Re: RE: [cinjug-users] Java Developer friendly *nix distro

[twcrone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

I have liked using Ubuntu but I haven't tried any others for a while.  I am actually spending more time using BSD on Mac.  That's probably not what you were looking for but since I started using OSX since earlier this year, I like it more and more.  So much that I just got my MacBook Pro delivered yesterday.

:-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Schneider, Michael" <scmikes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:54
Subject: RE: [cinjug-users] Java Developer friendly *nix distro
To: "Schneider, Michael" <scmikes@xxxxxxx>, java user <java-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, users@xxxxxxxxxx

> I forgot one other benifit of opensuse, if you are into 
> virtualization, Xen is fully supported.
>  
> 1) yast will create xen system images for you
> 2) yast will control your xen VM's
> 3) the installer will set up xen for you
>  
> have fun, and happy coding,
> Mike
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Schneider, Michael [mailto:scmikes@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thu 9/20/2007 10:35 AM
> To: java user; users@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [cinjug-users] Java Developer friendly *nix distro
> 
> 
> This is a personal question. It depends on your skill set.
>  
> I am not a system admin, so that throws out debian for me.  
> Ubuntu is very nice, and is improving repidly.  It is based 
> on debian, but has a more frequent release cycle, and a goal of 
> simplicity.   Someday,  I will likely be a Ubuntu 
> user. The Ubuntu installer is just not quite there yet, 
> expecially if you use LVM's for disk.
>  
> I use opensuse  http://www.opensuse.org 
> <http://www.opensuse.org/> .  I has a mature installer 
> (yast) that is very easy for a non-sysadmin user. Yast allows 
> you to perform sysadmin tasks (similar to windows control 
> panel).  The current  opensuse release is 10.2, and 
> 10.3 will be out in mid October. 
>  
> Suse has the largest collection of prebuilt packages that can be 
> installed on demand.  I just click on "install all" at 
> startup.  This give me:
>  
> 
> *	
> 	major editors
> *	
> 	java, python, ruby, perl, erlang,....
> *	
> 	svn, cvs, (I think 10.3 with have bzr, my favorite source 
> contol system)
> *	
> 	apache, tomcat 5.5
> *	
> 	many, many other
> 
> I expect that you will receive many different answers to your 
> post.  They will likely have 2 traits:
> 
> *	They will all provide different solutions 
> *	The solution will be correct for their solution space context.
> 
> I chose Suse for the reasons given above, let us know what you 
> end up with.
> 
>  
> 
> happy coding,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: java user [mailto:java-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thu 9/20/2007 9:49 AM
> To: users@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cinjug-users] Java Developer friendly *nix distro
> 
> 
> I'm looking for a linux/bsd distro that would be preloaded with 
> tools for development (java in particular).  Preferably it 
> would come with a selection of  source repositories 
> (cvs/subversion),  servers  (tomcat/jboss/jetty/apache 
> etc), databases, project automation tools (ant/cruise control), 
> bug tracking tools and anything else a group of developers might 
> need.  I know that in the past, including the JDK and/or 
> JRE on linux was an issue because of licensing issues and thus 
> including any software dependant on them seemed to be an issue 
> too.  However I believe the situation has or is 
> changing.   
> 
> So any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tad
> 
>