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Subject: Re: [cinjug-users] Product Keys
From: jack rosenzweig <jack@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:18:42 -0400
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Scott

Our company is taking a similar route with our developer tool, BuoyBuilder, though with a little twist. We are dual licensing the application, ala mySQL, so anyone that wants to cheat, can.

We are hoping that being a developer tool, that anyone that wants to use it for commercial purposes, won't mind paying the commercial license fee. Which will entitle them to a key, which will alter the application to show a commercial license in the splash screen, rather than the OS license.

We don't intend to make it too draconian, as anyone can just download the source and change it, or ignore the OS license and try to build commercial apps with it. If we find commercial apps with our runtime embedded  from companies that haven't paid us ... it would be a field day for our lawyers, and cost that company a lot more than the per developer license fees. But we hope it won't come to that.

We expect there to be some level of piracy, but we think (and hope) that there will be enough honest developers that will want to support the tool so that it will continue to grow and expand over the years.

Jack


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Jack Rosenzweig
94West, LLC
www.buoybuilder.com
AIM: BuoyBuilder


On Aug 11, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Jim Tyrrell wrote:

Scoot,

Although I have read James C. link and it does kind of
sicken me.  I think that a Public/Private license key
scheme is the only way to go.  I have never
implemented this, but have thought through this and it
seems to me to be the only real way to at least slow
down the caual programmer and user.  Note I said slow
down and not stop.

I would also just love to hear what your application
does.

Thank You
Jim Tyrrell


--- James Carman <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This is somewhat dated, but I found it a very
interesting read when I was
considering how to write a licensing service for my
Java code.  It's
somewhat depressing:










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From: Scott Hofmann [mailto:shofmann@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:06 AM
Subject: [cinjug-users] Product Keys



Hello everyone,

I'm involved in a software product being developed
in Java and wondered if
anyone here has had any experience with product keys
and registrations?  I'm
hearing from the developer that to do registration:



"From my research online, it looks like the only
truly secure way is to have
a license server.  The software would then connect
to the license server to
ensure that it is legitimate.  However, this seems
like an expensive
solution as it requires *much* more development work
in addition to having
another server to maintain."



Sooo... I'm trying to identify ways others are doing
their product keys or
have heard of doing them. We really do not need a
truly secure key. The
product will sell for under $50. What we need we
think is just a simple
solution that help to: 



- Keep people honest and not feeling to free about
passing along copies to
other.

- Being able to provide support to those who truly
purchased the product.

- Most likely we would not trouble ourselves with
those people who are
dishonest and feel the need to find loop hole in
software product keys in
order to use it anyway.



Any advice or thoughts on this topic would be
helpful.



- Scott Hofmann






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