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RE: [cinjug-users] Product Keys

To: "'Abraham Fathman'" <abraham@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [cinjug-users] Product Keys
From: "Scott Hofmann" <shofmann@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:10:01 -0400
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Abraham, I'll pass this information along to the actual developer in case
this is something he finds useful/interesting. Thanks for the input. 

BTW, for a person at my level of understanding on this topic would someone
explain to me in layman terms what public key/ private key based protection
really means. Maybe a brief example?

- Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abraham Fathman [mailto:abraham@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 9:15 AM
> To: Scott Hofmann
> Cc: users@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [cinjug-users] Product Keys
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I recently integrated TrueLicense into our product to serve a 
> similar purpose.
> 
> It is public key/private key based.
> 
> https://truelicense.dev.java.net/
> 
> I extended their LicenseContent class and added hostname and 
> ip restrictions to optionally be part of the license.
> 
> In my search... I found a lot of options, but only a few that 
> were open source. This one seemed to be the best.
> 
> I'm open to discussing my implementation further with you if 
> you are curious.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Abraham Fathman
> 513-708-5701
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Tyrrell [mailto:jimtyrrell@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 9:07 AM
> To: 'Scott Hofmann'; users@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [cinjug-users] Product Keys
> 
> Scoot,
> 
> Although I have read James C. link and it does kind of sicken 
> me.  I think that a Public/Private license key scheme is the 
> only way to go.  I have never implemented this, but have 
> thought through this and it seems to me to be the only real 
> way to at least slow down the caual programmer and user.  
> Note I said slow down and not stop.
> 
> I would also just love to hear what your application does.
> 
> Thank You
> Jim Tyrrell
> 
> 
> --- James Carman <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > This is somewhat dated, but I found it a very interesting 
> read when I 
> > was considering how to write a licensing service for my Java code.  
> > It's somewhat depressing:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://www.cigital.com/hostile-applets/maginot.html
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____
> > 
> > From: Scott Hofmann [mailto:shofmann@xxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:06 AM
> > To: users@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [cinjug-users] Product Keys
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I'm involved in a software product being developed in Java and 
> > wondered if anyone here has had any experience with product 
> keys and 
> > registrations?  I'm hearing from the developer that to do 
> > registration:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > "From my research online, it looks like the only truly 
> secure way is 
> > to have a license server.  The software would then connect to the 
> > license server to ensure that it is legitimate.  However, 
> this seems 
> > like an expensive solution as it requires *much* more 
> development work 
> > in addition to having another server to maintain."
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Sooo... I'm trying to identify ways others are doing
> > their product keys or
> > have heard of doing them. We really do not need a
> > truly secure key. The
> > product will sell for under $50. What we need we
> > think is just a simple
> > solution that help to: 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > - Keep people honest and not feeling to free about
> > passing along copies to
> > other.
> > 
> > - Being able to provide support to those who truly
> > purchased the product.
> > 
> > - Most likely we would not trouble ourselves with
> > those people who are
> > dishonest and feel the need to find loop hole in
> > software product keys in
> > order to use it anyway.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Any advice or thoughts on this topic would be
> > helpful.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > - Scott Hofmann
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> 
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