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Re: [cinjug-users] Does corp. America still trust Java?

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Subject: Re: [cinjug-users] Does corp. America still trust Java?
From: "Edward Sumerfield" <esumerfd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:28:42 -0500
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I am so sorry that I missed the talk Monday. So I have to be one of the guessers.

Assuming your reference to "DP style" development relates to more transaction oriented design, then java and C# are identical. Both can be used in either way. Java is still ahead of the game as far as infrastructure goes but the capabilities are the same you just have to write a little more in .Net.

You said that "most development is in DP style". Why does this imply that a language is more or less biased toward that style just because that's what people do with it?

Why can I not apply my OO design techniques to my DP app?

If missing the presentation has made these statements seem ridiculous then please ignore.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Windholtz" <windholtz@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [cinjug-users] Does corp. America still trust Java?



Yevgeny wrote:

my company is being constantly asked for .Net related services anymore. Whether it is putting together a .Net Architecture or simple development, it is mostly on the MS side and barely ever on J2EE one.

Most Java/J2EE applications are written in a Data Processing (DP) style. Rather than an OO style. I'd say over 90% of the java Ibeing written is DP-oriented.

At the end of my talk, I asked:
Since most development is in DP style,
is Java really the best choice for building DP programs???

That's why I called the talk COBOL oriented J2EE.
You can't (probably shouldn't) build OO apps in a DP culture.

It may take a .NET person to answer then,  if .NET is either:
(1) better at building DP-style applications
(2) has a better OO requirements culture.

Any one have an answer?  (guesses also accepted).

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-Mark
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