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Re: [cinjug-users] Centrino

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Subject: Re: [cinjug-users] Centrino
From: Brian Bonner <brian.bonner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:25:08 -0500
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James Carman wrote:

Here we go!  An OS pissing contest!  Oh goodie!  I can't wait to download
this stuff all day!

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Williams [mailto:gregw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:05 AM
To: users@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cinjug-users] Centrino


Yeah, I bet it would run even faster with less memory if you blow away OS X
and
install Yellow Dog Linux to remove OS bloat. ;-)

Greg

Quoting Mike Helmick <helmick@xxxxxxxxx>:



I hate to be the Mac pusher....(well, no I don't)

I would at least consider a Macintosh - Powerbook/iBook.
Mac OS X is an excellent platform for Java development (and development


in general).

The G4 processor is very energy efficient and you will find that you can get 5+ hours of battery life on new Apple laptops.

mike h

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On Feb 10, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Arnett, Matt wrote:



After reading my original post I forgot to list an app server running

too, probably WebLogic 8 or 9.

I plan to get 1 gig or ram but anymore than that gets really pricey.

My biggest hang-up on the Centrino is that for the price of a 1.6 to

2.0 GHz, I could get a standard
HT 3.0 GHz processor for about the same money. But it sounds like a


Pentium M 1.6 is fairly
comparable in speed to a HT 3.0. Not sure how Intel pulled that


off.


Thanks,
-Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: robert.cheek@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:robert.cheek@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:24 AM
To: Arnett, Matt
Subject: Re: [cinjug-users] Centrino

We're not using Centrino, per se (our policy prohibits wireless devices on
the laptops we order), but we're running Pentium M 1.6GHz laptops with





2GB
of RAM, and they are comparable in speed and performance to our 3GHz
minitowers (also 2GB of RAM, SATA disks, etc.). We run a 18,000 class


java
app in WebSphere, ClearCase, Lotus Notes, WSAD, DB2, and assorted


other


miscellaney without any problem. Probably the worst thing about it is

that
the disk subsystem is slower than the towers, so startup times are longer
for the apps, but once they're running, you're good.


We ordered both towers and laptops for some of our senior guys just

because
of that concern, and all of them have pretty much abandoned the towers





due
to the fact that the performance is so similar.

--
Rob Cheek
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Sorry, I don't have any free gmail accounts to offer :-0





Does anyone know how the Centrino processor based laptops perform


for


typical java development work? i.e. running and IDE, a DB server,


ant


(cranking away at unit tests), maybe a couple other apps running.





If you have any links that compare non-centrino to centrino


performance


that would help too.


Thanks, -Matt






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