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Re: [cinjug-users] Does corp. America still trust Java?

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Subject: Re: [cinjug-users] Does corp. America still trust Java?
From: Farhan Shah <shahfarh@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:55:11 -0800 (PST)
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my 2c:
 
<To started: my background is both Java and .Net.. and now management>
 
I look at the trend few different ways when making any decision:
 
1.  Cost of Development and Deployment:  Java development tools are expensive (yes there are open source products which are good but most fortune 100 companies haven't bought-into that concept yet), Hardware is expensive (specially IBMs),  developers are expensive (avg cost is $70-90).. Also ego of Java developers that they are "good" programmers (because they "understand" OO  is getting old) and finding "GOOD" java architect is very hard.  On other hand, .NET developers started to learn and understand OO because they want to be like Java Developers and paid like them.. but in some strange twist.. they got better then Java.. <no offense>. 
 
2.  Microsoft strategy to cut prices of OS in early 2001(ish):  Not sure if microsoft knew what they were doing (i think they did), but they gave customers (small or large) very big discounts on there OS and development tools under embrella of early adopter projects.   So lot of customer got locked into tools and hardware investments.. so now they are so used to tools and hardware that its hard to switch..
 
3. (my personal view) Sun ruined Java because of slow development of new version of java.  Sun is/was so scared that Microsft is going to come get them that they lost the vision and strategy.  I think IBM should buy them :)
 
Farhan


"Yevgeny A. Smolyansky" <yevgeny@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Cinjugers,

Is it just me or others have been experiencing that as well?

After being a classic Java development shop for over 6 years, delivering
many successful projects and just doing a little bit of .Net on the way my
company is being constantly asked for .Net related services anymore.
Whether it is putting together a .Net Architecture or simple development,
it is mostly on the MS side and barely ever on J2EE one. Our statistics is
that on every 5-6 contacts about .Net we are lucky to hear once about
J2EE. Is that a new trend, new fashion? Is MS slowly killing Java and
corporate America does not trust Java anymore? What do we do with our
years of investment in Java, the platform we all love?

I am not sure why I even wrote it, just felt that way at the moment!

Yevgeny A. Smolyansky
President
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www.bridgeinfotech.com
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