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Re: RE: [cinjug-users] Localization and I18N

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Subject: Re: RE: [cinjug-users] Localization and I18N
From: <jim_garrett@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:12:41 -0400
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Eric,

You have touched upon something I hadn't yet considered, and that is correctly 
displaying the text no matter what language is was entered.  I know this is 
also something I will have to do.

My question stemmed from the data being translated into multiple languages and 
how this is accomplished.  It looks like a different table must be created for 
every translation.  This brings up an interesting challenge in the creation of 
the data, and its update/storage into the database.

Thanks for your reply.  The information you conveyed is definitely good stuff.

Jim Garrett
> 
> From: "Broyles, Eric" <ebroyles@xxxxxxx>
> Date: 2004/10/18 Mon PM 03:42:58 EDT
> To: <users@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [cinjug-users] Localization and I18N
> 
> Jim,
> 
> I am working on a project right now with this same requirement.  I'm
> tackling this issue as we speak (and have been for nearly a week now).
> My application requires that users can input data in any language and
> then that data is stored in the database and must be displayed
> (correctly) on a web page.  I've made some progress, but this has proven
> to be a greater challenge than I expected.  I don't have a full solution
> yet, but here's what I've done thus far.
> 
> Set the charset to UTF-8 on the web page using the
> ServletResponse.setContentType() method.  Somehow you have to get the
> data into the database in UTF-8 encoded format.  I am using SQL Server
> 2000 as the database, which supports Unicode data internally, however it
> uses UCS-2/UTF-16 encoding.  I have found that if I use a regular column
> type (i.e. not the special Unicode type) in the database, and enter the
> data from a web form encoded in UTF-8, it will usually display
> correctly.  I've encountered some problems with Simplified and
> Traditional Chinese, but I have had success with Spanish, Thai, Korean,
> and Japanese.
> 
> The key when processing the form is to take the text value from the web
> form and call getBytes("utf-8") on it to get a byte array encoded in
> UTF-8.  Then create a new String from the resulting byte array and save
> that string to the database.  Then when displaying the string from the
> database to the web, make sure the page encoding is set to UTF-8 (as
> mentioned above).
> 
> Calling getBytes("utf-8") on the form value seems odd given that the
> page encoding is set to UTF-8.  This is the step I wasn't doing until
> today because it just didn't seem right.  But sure enough, it seems to
> work.  Maybe it has something to do with Java storing Strings internally
> in Unicode.
> 
> I hope my rambling proves useful to you.  If I learn anything more, I'll
> pass it along.  I'd appreciate any bits of knowledge you pick up along
> the way as well.  :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jim_garrett@xxxxxxxx [mailto:jim_garrett@xxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 15:12
> To: users@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cinjug-users] Localization and I18N
> 
> 
> I have a question I was hoping someone has done before and can provide
> some guidance.  I have a customer who wants to be able to display data
> fields and their values in the correct language when using a web
> interface.  I am very familiar with how to localize the text fields, but
> the actual data, that comes from the database, is a completely different
> animal.  I would assume a different table must exist for each language
> to be displayed; and I assume a person would have to translate the text
> manually that is stored in the table.
> 
> Has anyone encountered this type of requirements before?  If so how did
> you solve this problem.
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> Jim Garrett
> 
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